效率的滑块:AI 造得出有用之物,造不出意义
编程语言设计师 Bob Nystrom 用两个自己的故事——为岳母手织的围巾、为弟弟写的短片剧本——把「价值」拆成两半:utility(效用)来自物品能做的事,meaning(意义)来自制作者为他人花费的、不可回收的时间,且不可转让。生成式 AI 能把前者放大,却无法生成后者:ChatGPT 或许能在十分之一的时间里写出更好的剧本,但给弟弟的意义也只剩十分之一。作者由此提出一个粗糙模型——效率是滑块,决定成品中效用与意义的配比——并给出选择标准:只需要「能用的东西」时放手用(他引用华盛顿州生态部的招聘启事,其中明确鼓励用 AI 写样板代码、生成测试、做安全重构);涉及人与人的连接时,尽量少让机器介入。他同时承认模型的两个漏洞:刻意加大难度不会线性地增加意义,而制作过程本身也能带来快乐。全文只看个人层面的使用,未涉及 AI 的全局外部性。
One of the reasons I write is to help me organize my own mind. I have a compulsive need to figure things out and I’ll lay awake at night shuffling sentences around in my head until it hangs together. Then I just have to try to get it all down in Markdown before it dissolves back into chaos.
Like a lot of people these days, I am losing a lot of sleep over LLMs and generative AI. I mean that literally. I’ve had nights where I tossed and turned worrying about whether AI is going to destroy a career I love or wreck modern society until the sun comes up.
I keep hoping I’ll sort it out in my head enough to reach some inner peace. I’m not saying I will literally figure it out, like, for the world. But I keep hoping I can at least figure out my own relationship with AI.
I’m still not there, but I was able to pull one thread out of the tangled discourse around AI and get it to make sense in my head. I hope it will help you too. Or maybe this is all nonsense and you’ll point out the myriad ways in which I’m wrong. That’s a possibility, but I’m trying to be more courageous in my writing, so here I am.
我写作的理由之一,是帮自己把脑子理清楚。我总有一种强迫症般的冲动,非要把事情弄明白不可;夜里躺在床上,我会在心里一遍遍挪动句子,直到它们能拼成一个整体。然后我得趁它还没重新散成一团乱麻,赶紧用 Markdown 全部写下来。
和如今很多人一样,我因为 LLM 和生成式 AI 睡不好觉——这是字面意义上的。有些夜晚我翻来覆去,担心 AI 会毁掉我热爱的事业,或者把现代社会搞得一团糟,一直熬到天亮。
我一直盼着能在脑子里把这件事想透,换回一点内心的平静。我不是说我能替整个世界想明白,但我至少希望能弄清自己和 AI 之间的关系。
我还没做到,但我从围绕 AI 的那团乱麻里抽出过一根线,并让它在自己脑子里说得通。希望它对你也有用。也可能这全是胡说八道,你会指出我错得有多离谱。这完全可能,但我正在努力让自己的写作更勇敢一点,所以我还是写出来了。
Anyway. Generative AI is about using machine learning to produce digital things. For AI to be a net good for the world, at the very least, the things it produces must have value. But what does it mean for a thing to have "value"?
Utility
The obvious answer is that a thing has value if it’s useful. If it solves some material problem in the world or at least creates some joy, that’s value. In the UX world, they call this “utility”: the thing a thing actually does.
An apple has utility. You can eat it and it will give you some calories, some hydration, a little fiber. If it’s not an oxymoronically named Red Delicious, it might even bring you some delight. Material objects have a natural sort of utility from their physicality, but digital objects can have utility too.
言归正传。生成式 AI 做的是用机器学习生产数字之物。要让 AI 对世界而言是净收益,最起码,它产出的东西必须有价值。可一个东西“有价值”到底是什么意思?
Utility(有用性)
最显然的答案是:一个东西有用,它就有价值。只要它能解决现实中的某个物质问题,哪怕只是带来一点快乐,那就是价值。在 UX 领域,人们把它叫做“utility”——一个东西实际能做的事。
苹果有 utility。你把它吃掉,能获得一些热量、一些水分、一点纤维。如果它不是那种名字自相矛盾的“红美味”,甚至还能给你一点愉悦。实体物件因为其物理性,天然带着某种 utility;但数字物件也可以有 utility。
A while back, I took an interest in audio programming. I read a lot of articles online to learn some of the math and algorithms behind digital signal processing. That information is useful. Before I read those articles, I couldn’t program an FM synth. Now I can. That utility is just as real whether I got it from reading a classic article written by Julius O. Smith III, or from asking ChatGPT.
In both the physical and digital worlds, utility really does matter. One possible anthropological definition of “technology” is anything that enables humans to more efficiently generate utility. It’s central to human progress.
前一阵子我对音频编程产生了兴趣。为了搞懂数字信号处理背后的数学和算法,我在网上读了很多文章。那些信息很有用。读之前我不会写 FM 合成器,现在会了。这份 utility 是实打实的,不管它是来自 Julius O. Smith III 写的经典文章,还是来自我向 ChatGPT 的提问。
无论物理世界还是数字世界,utility 都确实要紧。有一种人类学式的“技术”定义是:任何让人能更高效地产生 utility 的东西。它是人类进步的核心。
The reason I can go to a store and buy a bag of apples is because thousands of years of agriculture technology development means humans can very efficiently produce and transport food. And, you know, we need food to live. Food is cool.
My career as a programming language designer is only possible because of all of the material I found online to learn how compilers and languages work. Hobbies like knitting, making music, and cooking are deeply important to me. They’re possible in large part from learning through YouTube videos. Those articles and videos were truly useful to me.
我能走进商店买一袋苹果,是因为几千年的农业技术发展让人类可以极高效地生产、运输食物。而且,人得吃东西才能活。食物很棒。
我能成为编程语言设计者,全靠当年在网上找到的那些讲编译器和语言原理的资料。编织、做音乐、做饭这些爱好对我极其重要,而它们之所以可能,很大程度上要归功于 YouTube 视频。那些文章和视频对我是真的有用。
Generative AI can help improve this. Here’s a concrete example: I got curious about how AI is affecting software jobs outside of my weird tech company bubble so I started poking around job listing sites. I stumbled onto a software engineer position working for the Washington Department of Ecology. The listing says:
We’re looking for two journey-level developers who care about clean architecture, thrive in Agile teams, and see modern tooling—including AI-assisted development—as a way to work smarter, not riskier. You’ll collaborate with product, architecture, security, and platform engineering partners to design secure, accessible, scalable applications that replace decades of legacy complexity.
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Use AI-Assisted Tools Responsibly and Effectively
Leverage AI tools for boilerplate, test generation, and safe refactoring.
Validate AI-generated code for accuracy, security, and maintainability — no blind trust, no shortcuts.
Share best practices with teammates adopting new AI workflows.
生成式 AI 能帮上忙。举个具体的例子:我很好奇,在我这家古怪科技公司的泡泡之外,AI 正如何影响软件岗位,于是去招聘网站上翻了翻,偶然看到一个华盛顿州生态部(Washington Department of Ecology)的软件工程师职位。启事上写着:
我们要找两位资深(journey-level)开发者:在意整洁架构,能在敏捷团队里游刃有余,并把现代工具——包括 AI 辅助开发——看作更聪明而非更冒险的工作方式。你将与产品、架构、安全和平台工程的伙伴协作,设计安全、无障碍、可扩展的应用,替换掉积累了数十年的遗留复杂度。
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负责任且有效地使用 AI 辅助工具
用 AI 工具处理样板代码、生成测试、做安全重构。
校验 AI 生成的代码是否准确、安全、可维护——不盲信,不走捷径。
与正在采用新 AI 工作流的同事分享最佳实践。
It’s hard for me to imagine a better morally justified use of AI for software development. This is a government office whose charter is to “protect and sustain healthy land, air, water, and climate in harmony with a strong economy”. They are literally working to make the world better for nature and humans.
But as a government department, they are also really limited in their resources. If AI can make those two software engineers more productive, it can take the same tax dollars as input and produce a healthier world as output. That’s hard to argue against.
我很难想象软件开发中还有比这更有道德正当性的 AI 用法。这是一个政府机构,章程写明要“保护并维持健康的土地、空气、水和气候,与强劲的经济相协调”。他们确确实实在为自然和人类把世界变得更好。
但作为政府部门,他们的资源也非常有限。如果 AI 能让这两位软件工程师效率更高,那就等于把同样多的税金当作输入,产出的是一个更健康的世界。这一点很难反驳。
Meaning
When people get excited about AI and productivity, I think utility is what they have in mind. But utility is not the only kind of value a thing can have.
A couple of years ago, I hand-knitted a scarf for my mother-in-law. The scarf does have utility. It’s a rectangle of fabric that keeps her neck warm. The Olympic Peninsula is a lovely corner of the country, but it’s often a chilly one. A scarf made out of wet tissue paper would not have the same utility.
意义
当人们为 AI 和生产力兴奋时,我想他们脑子里装的是 utility。但 utility 并不是一个东西唯一能拥有的价值。
几年前,我亲手给岳母织了一条围巾。这条围巾确实有 utility:它是一块能让她脖子保暖的矩形织物。奥林匹克半岛是这个国家很美的一角,但常常很冷。一条用湿纸巾做的围巾,utility 就不一样了。
I could have just gone to the store and bought her a scarf. Were I the kind of robotic rational actor who thinks only about maximizing their utility function when not sipping pour-overs in some culty rationalist commune outside of SF, then I would know that the optimal strategy is to use my software engineer skills to maximally turn my labor into cash and then use that cash to buy a scarf.
The scarf I hand-made took dozens of hours to make. At even a modest West Coast software engineer salary, that number of hours would buy an extremely nice scarf. Maybe not vicuña, but at least cashmere. Had I dropped a few hundred bucks on a scarf, would it have more value? Realistically, it would be a better scarf. Softer material, finer stitches. Certainly more fashionable.
我本可以去商店直接买一条给她。如果我是那种机器人式的理性行动者——只在没在湾区郊外某个带邪教气质的理性主义公社里喝手冲的时候才考虑效用函数最大化——那我就会知道,最优策略是用我的软件工程师技能尽量把劳动换成现金,再用现金买一条围巾。
我手织的那条围巾花了几十个小时。哪怕按西海岸软件工程师不高的薪水算,这些小时数也够买一条非常好的围巾了。也许不是小羊驼绒,至少也是开司米。如果我花几百美元买一条围巾,它会更有价值吗?现实地说,它会是一条更好的围巾:材质更软,针脚更细,当然也更时髦。
You and I know the answer is “no”. As any parent who lovingly clips their kid’s objectively terrible art to the fridge knows, the value of a made thing is not entirely based on its merits. That scarf has value not because it’s a great scarf but because I chose to spend an irreplaceable fraction of my life making it. It’s a symbol of how much I care about her.
你我都知道答案是“不”。任何一位把自家孩子那客观上惨不忍睹的画作郑重夹在冰箱上的父母都明白:一件手作之物的价值,并不完全取决于它本身的成色。那条围巾有价值,不是因为它是一条好围巾,而是因为我选择把生命中不可替代的一小段花在了它身上。它是我在乎她多深的象征。
In short, it has meaning. Meaning doesn’t make an object more useful. It’s not even transferrable. If my mother-in-law gave the scarf to you, its meaning would evaporate.
But I bet that if you think about the objects that have the most value to you, your S-tier will be populated by things that excel mostly in meaning, not utility. The things that you would grab before running out of a burning house are the things with sentimental, not functional value.
总之,它有“意义”。意义不会让一个物件更好用,甚至不可转移。如果我岳母把这条围巾转送给你,它的意义立刻就蒸发了。
但我不信你回想一下对自己最有价值的物件时,你的 S 级清单里不是那些主要胜在意义、而非 utility 的东西。着火时你会先抓起来带走的,正是那些带有情感价值而非功能价值的东西。
Source of meaning
You kind of know the answer intuitively, but I’m trying to be clear in my thinking, so when I talk about objects having meaning… where does that meaning come from? Why do some objects have more meaning than others?
I’ve spent hundreds of hours knitting over the past couple of years, mostly making things for friends and family. I’ve thought about this question a lot. I suspect that it comes down to spending time in service of another.
意义的来源
答案你凭直觉就知道,但我想把思路理清楚:当我说一个物件“有意义”,这份意义从何而来?为什么有些物件比另一些更有意义?
过去几年我在编织上花了几百个小时,大多是给朋友和家人做东西。这个问题我想了很多。我猜,归根结底是为他人付出时间。
Humans are sentient actors with agency and entire cognitive universes in our heads. But we are also animals made of meat and bones, and that flesh doesn’t last forever. Every one of us has a finite amount of things we will ever do. “Spend time” is one of those stock phrases that has been sucked dry of semantic flavor over the years, but there is a profound metaphor there. When you choose to use some of your time making a thing for someone, you don’t get that time back. It is spent.
Choosing to spend a fraction of our most precious resource for someone else is the strongest signal we can send that that person matters to us.
I’m in my late 40s. I hope I still have a lot of living left to do, but the odds are very good that I’m past the mid-point of my lifespan. An increasing fraction of conversations with my friends revolve around our various medical tribulations. I can feel the finiteness of life in my bones, quite literally. When I think about what I want to do with my remaining allotment of life, the answer that resonates is taking care of and making things for the people I love.
人类是有意识、有能动性的存在,脑子里装着完整的认知宇宙。但我们也是血肉之躯,而这副血肉不会永存。每个人这辈子能做的事,都是有限的一堆。“花时间”这个说法这些年已经被用烂,语义早被榨干,但里面藏着很深的隐喻:当你选择拿自己的一部分时间为某人做一件东西,那段时间就再也回不来了,它是被花掉的。
选择把最珍贵的资源分出一小部分花在别人身上,是我们能发出的最强信号:这个人在我心里很重要。
我已经快五十岁了。我希望还有很多日子可过,但很可能我已经走过了人生的一半。我和朋友们的聊天里,越来越多的话题是各自的病痛。我能真切地——字面意义上的——从骨子里感觉到生命的有限。想到剩下这些日子要怎么用,最能打动我的答案是:照顾我爱的人,为他们做东西。
Generating meaning
Generative AI, when wielded deftly, can be an amazing tool for creating things with utility faster and more easily than you ever could before. But it can’t generate meaning. The giant matrix of floating point numbers in a rack of GPUs in some data center does not love you.
意义的生成
用得精巧的话,生成式 AI 是件了不起的工具,能让你比以往任何时候都更快、更省力地做出带 utility 的东西。但它造不出意义。某个数据中心里,一排 GPU 上那个巨大的浮点数矩阵,并不爱你。
Another story: When my brother and I were growing up, we were really into movies. We made short videos (hilariously bad), learned how to do special effects make-up (actually tolerably good), and all sorts of stuff like that. We dreamed about growing up and becoming another pair of Hollywood brothers like the Zuckers or Coens.
Many years later, as a birthday present, I wrote my brother a screenplay for a short horror film about a mythological siren. I toiled on it every night after the kids went to bed for weeks. It’s one of my favorite gifts.
I don’t know if we’ll ever get a chance to shoot it. We live on opposite sides of the country and he can’t handle the gloom of Seattle any more than I can handle the politics of the South. It’s likely this screenplay has zero utility. But it still has a ton of meaning because I sweated every single word in that stack of 12-point Courier pages.
再讲一个故事。我和弟弟小时候特别迷电影。我们拍短片(烂得很好笑),学做特效化妆(其实还凑合),诸如此类。我们梦想长大后成为又一对好莱坞兄弟,像扎克兄弟或科恩兄弟那样。
很多年后,作为生日礼物,我给弟弟写了一个短片恐怖剧本,讲一个神话里的塞壬。连续几周,我每晚等孩子睡下就埋头写。这是我最喜欢的礼物之一。
我不知道我们有没有机会把它拍出来。我们住在这个国家的两端,他受不了西雅图的阴沉,我也受不了南方的政治氛围。这个剧本很可能 utility 为零。但它仍然满载意义,因为那叠 12 号 Courier 打印纸上的每一个字,都是我熬出来的。
Today, with the help of ChatGPT, I could probably put together a feature-length screenplay in a tenth of the time. It might even be an objectively better screenplay for a better movie. But because I made the screenplay in a tenth of the time thanks to ChatGPT’s help, it would hold only a tenth of the meaning for my brother. If my hypothesis that meaning comes from time sacrifice is true, then by making us more productive, AI eliminates meaning.
如今借助 ChatGPT,我大概能用十分之一的时间拼出一部长片剧本,甚至可能是客观上更好、能拍成更好电影的剧本。但因为我是靠 ChatGPT 用十分之一的时间做出来的,它对弟弟来说就只剩十分之一的意义。如果我那个“意义来自时间牺牲”的假设成立,那么 AI 让我们更有生产力的同时,也在消灭意义。
Both kinds of value
Most objects, digital or material, have a mixture of both kinds of meaning. My favorite gifts to give or receive are those rare ones that are both thoughtful and useful.
An object carries with it the weight of time that was put into making it and has a certain heft from what you can do with it.
两种价值
大多数物件,无论数字的还是实体的,都混合着两种意义。我最喜欢送出或收到的礼物,是那种既用心又有用的稀有之物。
一件物件既带着制作它时投入的时间的分量,也带着“你能拿它做什么”所形成的那种厚度。
I think of AI as a tool that can transmute that former kind of value into the latter. It drains some of the meaning out, but in return lets you make more things with utility for the same effort.
There is nothing unique to AI about this. Any tool that increases efficiency has the same property. They make little knitting machines that make rows of stitches as easily as turning a crank. I could have made a scarf for my mother-in-law using that in a fraction of the time.
我把 AI 看作一种能把前一种价值转化成后一种价值的工具。它抽走一部分意义,作为交换,让你用同样的力气做出更多有 utility 的东西。
这一点并非 AI 独有。任何提升效率的工具都有这个性质。人们造出小型编织机,摇一摇手柄就能织出一行行针脚。我用它给岳母织围巾,时间只要零头。
Efficiency—the multiplier that determines how much effort is required to make an object—works sort of like a slider that lets us choose the ratio of utility and meaning the resulting thing has. Generative AI, assuming the claims are true, has the capability to radically move that slider. It can produce huge volumes of stuff with real utility. But that exact same ease implies that the results are all devoid of a sense of personal meaning.
效率——决定做一件东西需要投入多少力气的那根乘数——有点像一根滑杆,让我们选择成品里 utility 与意义各占多少。假如那些说法都属实,生成式 AI 有能力把这根滑杆推到极端:它能源源不断产出真正有 utility 的大量东西。但也是这同一份轻松,意味着这些成果都缺乏个人意义。
Two tangents
I don’t want to take the idea that efficiency is a slider between meaningful-but-scarce and meaningless-plenty too far. It’s a rough model. There are at least two problems with it:
First, it suggests that you can make an object infinitely meaningful by just making the process arbitrarily hard. I could have knitted that scarf using two leftover take-out Chinese bamboo chopsticks. In the dark. One-handed. That would certainly have required a greater sacrifice of time (and sanity) on my part. But there’s obviously a point of diminishing returns where people value the effort we put into making things but less so when we elect to be masochists.
两点题外话
我不想把“效率是一根滑杆,一端是稀缺而有意义,另一端是丰裕而无意义”这个想法推得太远。它只是个粗糙的模型,至少有两个问题:
第一,它暗示只要把过程弄得无限困难,就能让一件东西获得无限的意义。我本可以用两根外卖剩下的中式竹筷织那条围巾,在黑暗里,单手操作。那肯定会让我牺牲更多时间(和理智)。但显然有一个收益递减的临界点:人们看重我们制作时投入的心力,可当我们非要自讨苦吃时,就没那么买账了。
Also, when making things, we often derive personal joy from the process itself. Yes, I did sacrifice time to knit a scarf but… I like knitting. It wasn’t an entirely miserable toil or something. I got to play with yarn.
The high level point is just that the more we automate the process of making a thing, the less of ourselves we put into it. And an object with less of ourselves in it is often valued less by the person who receives it. That’s all I’m saying.
另外,做东西的时候,我们往往能从过程本身获得快乐。没错,我是为织围巾牺牲了时间,可……我喜欢编织啊。它并不是纯粹的苦役什么的,我还能玩玩毛线。
核心的一点只是:我们越是把制作过程自动化,投入其中的自己就越少;而一件投入更少自我的东西,收到它的人往往也没那么看重。我想说的就这些。
What kind of value do you want?
The tools we use to make things and the resulting productivity gives us a lever to control how much we prioritize getting a useful object out fast versus getting an object suffused with meaning. That suggests a way to decide when we should and shouldn’t use AI.
If you just need a thing that does a thing, then its utility is what matters. I want the Washington Department of Ecology to use my very limited tax dollars as effectively as they can to keep the Pacific Northwest the enchanting natural marvel that it is. If they can do that better using AI, then by all means they should do so.
If you want to make a thing that has some emotional resonance or some connection to other people—whether that be a loved one, an audience, or humanity as a whole—then you don’t want to suck out any of its meaning.
你想要哪种价值?
我们用来做东西的工具,以及它带来的生产力,是一根杠杆,让我们决定在多大程度上优先“快速拿到有用的东西”,又有多大程度上优先“让这东西浸满意义”。这也就给出了一套判断标准:什么时候该用 AI,什么时候不该。
如果你只是需要一个能干活的东西,那它有没有 utility 才是关键。我希望华盛顿州生态部尽可能高效地花我那点少得可怜的税金,让太平洋西北地区继续保持它迷人的自然奇观本色。如果借助 AI 能做得更好,那他们尽管用。
但如果你想做的东西要能引起情感共鸣,或者要和其他人建立某种连接——对象可能是所爱之人、一群听众,也可能是整个人类——那你就不该把它身上的意义抽走一丝一毫。
I listen to a lot of electronic music while I work. In some sense, it is “utility music”. I just want a vibe to help me tune out the world and focus. I can’t even handle lyrics while I’m programming or writing.
I have to admit that the genres I listen to are the ones most amenable to being automatically generated by machines. I literally do listen to generative ambient which has been a little corner of the music world since well before “generative” glommed onto the word “AI”.
我工作时会听大量电子乐。某种意义上,那就是“utility 音乐”。我只是想要一点氛围,帮我屏蔽世界、集中注意力。我写代码或写文章时,连歌词都受不了。
我得承认,我听的这些类型恰恰是最容易被机器自动生成的。我真的会听“生成式氛围乐”,而在“生成式”这个词黏上“AI”之前很久,它就已经是音乐世界里一个小小的角落了。
Even so, I still find my listening experience more gratifying when the music was made by someone who actually gave a shit about it. Even though the relationship between artist and listener is vague and indirect, that connection matters to me. I know that when I make music, the thing that helps me push through all of the many frustrations of producing is the hope—however tentative—that at the end of it all, one day someone might put on a track of mine and find their day improved by it being the temporary soundtrack to their life.
Those moments of connection between artist and audience are what I live for as a creative person. For those, I can’t see generative AI as anything but harmful.
即便如此,当音乐出自一个真正在乎它的人之手时,我的聆听体验还是更满足。艺术家和听众之间的关系虽然模糊又间接,这份连接对我仍然重要。我知道,自己做音乐时,支撑我熬过制作过程中种种挫败的,就是那么一点希望——哪怕很微弱:有一天,也许会有人放起我的某首曲子,让它成为自己生活的临时配乐,并因此过得好一点。
作为一个创作者,我为之而活的正是这些创作者与听众之间连接的瞬间。为了它们,我看不出生成式 AI 除了有害还能是什么。
Sometimes yes and sometimes no
Thinking about the things I make and consume and the kinds of value they contain helps me sort out some of my extremely conflicted feelings around AI.
I want to emphasize that I’m only looking at this from the perspective of a single person’s individual use of AI. The global effects of AI are just as if not more important. But I haven’t sorted out my feelings around that to have any idea what to say here. Maybe I never will.
有时该用,有时不该
想一想我做的东西、我消费的东西,以及它们包含着哪几种价值,帮我理清了自己对 AI 那极为矛盾的心情。
我要强调,我这里只看一个人单独使用 AI 的视角。AI 的全球性影响同样重要,甚至更重要。但那方面我还没理清自己的感受,实在不知道该说什么。也许我永远也理不清。
But I can set that aside and imagine a world where I can run a generative AI completely locally on my machine. A world where I was the only person on Earth who had an AI. In that timeline, there would be almost no externalities to consider. Even then, I still want to be mindful of the consequences of using AI to help me make.
In my own uses, I aim to focus on the places where I think AI can improve the efficiency of making utilitarian goods. And when I’m making something where the human connection and meaning are important, I will try to put as much of myself and as little of the machine into it as I can.
但我可以把这些先放到一边,设想一个世界:生成式 AI 完全跑在我自己的机器上,我是地球上唯一拥有 AI 的人。在那样一条时间线里,几乎没有外部性需要考虑。可即便如此,我仍然想留心用 AI 帮我做东西会带来什么后果。
就我自己的用法而言,我会把 AI 集中在那些我认为能提高“实用品”制作效率的地方。而当我做的东西里,人与人的连接和意义很重要时,我会尽量多放自己进去,少放机器进去。